Why Does Hell Exist?

In a basic model of atonement, human beings had generated a debt to God for offending Him with their sins. In response, God came down to Earth in the human form of Jesus Christ and endured the penalty for humans’ sins, saving them from Hell. If this is true, then why have we always been told that good people go to Heaven and bad people go to Hell? If Jesus truly endured enough punishment to pay the debt of billions of past and future sins, then why would Hell even need to exist at all?
I feel that if this model of atonement were to be true, there would be no religious boundaries keeping us from sinning. It would be easy to say “I can do that, Jesus has got me covered.” Obviously, modern law keeps us in line for the most part; however, we all do things on a daily basis that Jesus or the church would not necessarily agree with. We curse, we lie, we steal, we have sex before marriage, etc.
For the Christian way to have any plausibility, atonement would have to be much more complex. From a religious standpoint, perhaps Jesus’ death was to implore the human race to become a better group of people. Maybe the passion of Christ did not save us from Hell, but instead gave us all the chance to avoid going to Hell. Thinking of Jesus’s sacrifice, we have the opportunity to feel remorse for our sins, ask God for forgiveness and be forgiven.
From a historic standpoint, there are many religious instances in which stories were swayed to reflect the times. For example, during lent, Catholics cannot eat meat on Fridays. During the time that this rule was inducted into the Catholic faith, the world was experiencing a struggling fish market. Therefore, Catholics were told that it was sinful to eat meat on Fridays during lent in order to promote the purchasing of fish and improvement of the industry. Perhaps atonement is a similar situation and is not real at all. Maybe the writers of the bible used Jesus’ death to pass along his teachings to promote becoming better people. With atonement, Christ’s death was supposed to pay off our debt to God, when in reality, it only created a new debt, one to Jesus himself. Followers of Christ may now feel obligated to ensure he did not die in vain, making sure to ask God for forgiveness whenever they sin and strive to become the best person they can be. So, maybe atonement is just a way to instill guilt into human minds, making sure that those who followed Christ would do just as I mentioned above, the threat of a non-existent Hell hanging above their heads.
Therefore, in my opinion, there are three options when it comes to the existence of Hell. First, Hell existed at one point and was abolished after Christ’s death. Second, Hell still exists and Christ’s death has given us the opportunity to atone and avoid it. And last, Hell doesn’t exist, never did exist and atonement is merely a biblically manipulative tool to keep us humans from sinning.

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  1. Wayne Ceallaigh (Barone)
    Posted February 2, 2012 at 7:50 am | Permalink

    This is a nice post. I feel that Hell is a manipulative tool. Think of this: In this day and age, wouldn’t it be easy to think that all the best parties are in hell? Think of it. The best times are usually when sinning (not really, but for the young and many others of this era it is more apparent), so the sinners go to hell. All those fun loving souls in one place sounds like a killer rave to me.
    On a more serious note, One could say that hell is a purgatory of sorts: A place to purge the darkness of sin out of our souls, thus our prime plane, the one we are on now would be that purgatory, that hell. Heaven then is a place for pure souls, a place where the untainted souls can rest since the difficult journey of perfecting the energy necessary to truly trascend has occured. This is reflected in many religions where Heaven is attained by purity of the soul, and unpure souls are sent down again (usually in another form at first) to start the journey again. This is why the Dalai Llama is so revered, since he acheived this purity, and in his pure state, he felt that he could not really be pure and leave all this impurity behind. This is a problem, since he denied himself heaven, and reincarnates constantly on earth in order to help purify all souls. Does this mean that heaven is not attainable if there are other impure souls? Would the knowledge that imperfect souls exist bother a perfect state soul? Hell is a relatively new creation….or I should say, it is a relatively new exageration, since the hell of old, the underworld was merely a place for the dead, all dead, and was a place of shades of grey, where the wilting memories of the spirits would rest. This is why Jewish people (I believe) name thier children after ancestors, in order to pave the way back for the spirits, or to pay remembrance to them.

  2. Andrew Sblendorio
    Posted February 2, 2012 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    I agree with part of your first point Wayne. Hell can be viewed as a manipulative tool, but I feel many religions (I can only speak from a Roman Catholic background but I assume this must permeate in at least some extent into all major religions) use manipulative tools throughout. The Bible is a well written guide to life, I will give it that. Coming from my background I tend to feel many frequent practicers lose alot of the important substance to religeous teachings and instead just blindly follow their faith and try to convert others, losing focus on living their own life as the teachings really suggest. So I guess I’m not really saying religions use a lot of manipulative tools, I suppose it’s just easy to get lost trying to stay out of hell instead of living the best life you can. But on practicers defense I feel many higher ups in religion try to exploit people and confuse them unnessasarily, and this has been going on for a long long time.

  3. heyarnold!
    Posted February 2, 2012 at 7:04 pm | Permalink

    I agree with Drew. Born and raised Roman Catholic as well, I feel like the church can sometimes manipulate its followers. But as for Hell and its existence there’s something I’ve always wondered. Is religion even real? it’s obviously there and in many forms but my point is, were these people “enlightened” or was religion made up? Not trying to be atheist but if you think about it religion was and still kind is used to control society. It creates a hope in the world that if were “good” and do “good things” will go to a happy place where we will forever be in happiness. Sounds like a sweet deal if you’re poor and landless so you don’t kill the guy who has money and land to spare. So maybe it is possible that hell doesn’t exists because none of it exists. It may be hell is just there to scare us and to keep us in line like you said because what else would stop us from killing each other?

  4. Sensey
    Posted February 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

    I understand what you are saying knco and everything you are saying is valid. I for one believe in the Bible so this is something I would like to investigate and know more about. When it comes to what Jesus Christ’s death, what you said with being able to avoid hell is the most accurate to me. Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior so I am saved and will avoid hell. Also, with Jesus’s death it does not give us free rain to do what we want sin wise and know that Jesus had got us covered. God loves us and wants us to pursue him just as He pursues and loves us. As long as you do that, you can’t go wrong.

  5. povh1777
    Posted February 3, 2012 at 10:21 am | Permalink

    Doesn’t everything seem to involve manipulation these days? Look at politics, games, magazine articles. Everyone wants you to believe something different, but it is on your shoulders to decide what is right. That being said, aren’t we the ones who have the choice of going to Heaven or Hell? We have the chance to repent instead of going to Hell. We still have a relationship with God to follow him and our morals though so that certainly does not give us the right to do what we want. To reiterate what Sensey stated, if we pursue God like he pursues us, we will be fine.

  6. Wisdumb
    Posted February 3, 2012 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

    Don’t some theists believe that Hell is simply a place where God doesn’t exist. God just isn’t present there. Hell might not be the fiery pits and torture and all. Looking around the world today I see a ton of stuff going on that makes me think God might not be present. Maybe were already in Hell. Which would be alright, its not all bad. Like the one poster said, some great parties…

    Also, why would Hell even exist if God is just. Eternal punishment for 80 years of sin?

    If I live a charitable life, but I’m also an atheist, am I going to Hell? Is the mass murderer who believes in God, feels bad, and asks for forgiveness going to Heaven?

  7. stra7483
    Posted February 3, 2012 at 9:33 pm | Permalink

    So I realize this post is about hell, but I have a thought about Heaven and this seemed the most reasonable post to make it on.

    Everyone who does “good things” does so in hopes of getting to heaven when they pass away. But isn’t that a little selfish? Shouldn’t you do good things because they are good and you should be good to other people because of their well being? If you do good things just because you want to get into heaven, that seems counter-intuitive, like you’re missing the point. I feel that if I was a supremely understanding God, I’d rather people did good for the sake of others, not because they’re just trying to get themselves into heaven.

    Maybe I’M missing the point, it’s hard for me to grasp certain religious ideals because i’m a hardcore atheist and naturalist.

    Thoughts?

  8. Wisdumb
    Posted February 6, 2012 at 12:55 am | Permalink

    I’m with you stra7483. Seems like God would look down at those who do good because of selfish reasons.

    I also can’t understand what Heaven would be like. Is it even us who go to Heaven? Do i just stop getting angry once I’m in Heaven? If I have to be changed in any way to be more fit for Heaven then its not really me up their any way.

    Even if only the good people go to Heaven, seems like there would still be a ton of problems, disagreements, even violence. The only way I can see Heaven being free of those things is if God transforms everyone once they arrive, but that seems like a big problem. Especially if we don’t get a choice

  9. Wayne Ceallaigh (Barone)
    Posted February 6, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    I feel that doing the right thing for the purpose of just doing it to help others is the best way to go about goodness. It is like the pursiut of happiness. If one were to put happiness on a pedestal, then that happiness would be harder to achieve, perhaps impossible, yet if one leads a good life, then happiness is a byproduct. The same can be said of goodness. If one leads a good life, and is aware of what is going on around them, and lends a helping hand where they can, then they will be doing good. Crusading for good is another matter, becuase then that good is being forced on someone, and like discomfort, pain, or even murder is wrong, forcing ‘good’ on someone is not good.

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